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	<title>Comments on: Over the past six PR Friendly Indexes: mostly declining</title>
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	<description>Digital, social media, and everything in between from someone who likes to live in bubbles, be they dotcom, social media, or whatever&#039;s next...</description>
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		<title>By: out of hibernation&#8230; &#171; The last man in Europe&#8230;</title>
		<link>http://brendancooper.com/2008/08/23/over-the-past-six-pr-friendly-indexes-mostly-declining/#comment-7127</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[out of hibernation&#8230; &#171; The last man in Europe&#8230;]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 17:07:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] get the blog back-on-track and no longer take the mantle of the blog with the fastest reducing authority. Oh and as Steve&#8217;s post  (recruitment consultants dream list) shows I&#8217;m also [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] get the blog back-on-track and no longer take the mantle of the blog with the fastest reducing authority. Oh and as Steve&#8217;s post  (recruitment consultants dream list) shows I&#8217;m also [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Busy busy busy &#171; Brendan Cooper, your Friendly Digital Social Media PR, ummm, Thingy</title>
		<link>http://brendancooper.com/2008/08/23/over-the-past-six-pr-friendly-indexes-mostly-declining/#comment-6898</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Busy busy busy &#171; Brendan Cooper, your Friendly Digital Social Media PR, ummm, Thingy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Oct 2008 14:58:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Over the past six PR Friendly Indexes: mostly&#160;declining  [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: Brendan</title>
		<link>http://brendancooper.com/2008/08/23/over-the-past-six-pr-friendly-indexes-mostly-declining/#comment-6844</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Brendan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Sep 2008 08:01:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ah yes!

In which case, the charts above don&#039;t include any of these &#039;softer&#039; metrics - they&#039;re just Technorati Authority - but &lt;a href=&quot;http://brendancooper.com/2008/08/19/the-pr-friendly-index-for-august-2008/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;the August PR Friendly Index looks at more wide-ranging measures&lt;/a&gt;. I compiled figures from HowSociable.com which generates a &#039;score&#039; from across 22 social media sites.

I looked into grabbing data from del.icio.us but I couldn&#039;t get consistent results. Since it&#039;s been redesigned I  might look into this again, but I think the problem I found with HowSociable - that is, how to derive a unique search term that is mostly fair across the board - will be even more intractable with del.icio.us. 

For example, I get wildly differing results if I search for brendancooper, brendan cooper, brendancooper.com and http://brendancooper.com. Which is correct? How do I do this with other sites that have generic names? And if I should do all four searches, for all blogs, then that suddenly becomes four hundred calls. I just don&#039;t have time/willpower/brainpower.

It&#039;s still something I&#039;d like to include though. Maybe one day I&#039;ll wake up and think of something clever. Meantime, we&#039;ve got HowSociable which kind of helps.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah yes!</p>
<p>In which case, the charts above don&#8217;t include any of these &#8216;softer&#8217; metrics &#8211; they&#8217;re just Technorati Authority &#8211; but <a href="http://brendancooper.com/2008/08/19/the-pr-friendly-index-for-august-2008/" rel="nofollow">the August PR Friendly Index looks at more wide-ranging measures</a>. I compiled figures from HowSociable.com which generates a &#8216;score&#8217; from across 22 social media sites.</p>
<p>I looked into grabbing data from del.icio.us but I couldn&#8217;t get consistent results. Since it&#8217;s been redesigned I  might look into this again, but I think the problem I found with HowSociable &#8211; that is, how to derive a unique search term that is mostly fair across the board &#8211; will be even more intractable with del.icio.us. </p>
<p>For example, I get wildly differing results if I search for brendancooper, brendan cooper, brendancooper.com and <a href="http://brendancooper.com" rel="nofollow">http://brendancooper.com</a>. Which is correct? How do I do this with other sites that have generic names? And if I should do all four searches, for all blogs, then that suddenly becomes four hundred calls. I just don&#8217;t have time/willpower/brainpower.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s still something I&#8217;d like to include though. Maybe one day I&#8217;ll wake up and think of something clever. Meantime, we&#8217;ve got HowSociable which kind of helps.</p>
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		<title>By: Gerry</title>
		<link>http://brendancooper.com/2008/08/23/over-the-past-six-pr-friendly-indexes-mostly-declining/#comment-6842</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gerry]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 23:46:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You said: &quot;...as far as I’m aware you need pretty sophisticated algorithms married to computing grunt and supplemented with substantial manual work to do this properly. That’s why entire companies are devoted to it (Onalytica, Cymfony etc). I’ve looked into different ways to ‘tweak’ the PR Friendly Index. I’m wondering whether I should move away from web stats and more towards social media stats. For example, if I could grab del.icio.us stats then at least that would go some way towards establishing what people think about a blog, rather than what computers do.

http://prdisasters.com/blog-leagues-a-magic-bullet-for-online-popularity/
Remember?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You said: &#8220;&#8230;as far as I’m aware you need pretty sophisticated algorithms married to computing grunt and supplemented with substantial manual work to do this properly. That’s why entire companies are devoted to it (Onalytica, Cymfony etc). I’ve looked into different ways to ‘tweak’ the PR Friendly Index. I’m wondering whether I should move away from web stats and more towards social media stats. For example, if I could grab del.icio.us stats then at least that would go some way towards establishing what people think about a blog, rather than what computers do.</p>
<p><a href="http://prdisasters.com/blog-leagues-a-magic-bullet-for-online-popularity/" rel="nofollow">http://prdisasters.com/blog-leagues-a-magic-bullet-for-online-popularity/</a><br />
Remember?</p>
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		<title>By: To Publicize . . . or not? &#124; Wired PR Works</title>
		<link>http://brendancooper.com/2008/08/23/over-the-past-six-pr-friendly-indexes-mostly-declining/#comment-6839</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[To Publicize . . . or not? &#124; Wired PR Works]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Sep 2008 22:42:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Last Saturday, I discovered Wired PR Works blog led a group of 100 PR blogs –by over 650% - in the most improved Technorati ranking category. [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Last Saturday, I discovered Wired PR Works blog led a group of 100 PR blogs –by over 650% &#8211; in the most improved Technorati ranking category. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Brendan</title>
		<link>http://brendancooper.com/2008/08/23/over-the-past-six-pr-friendly-indexes-mostly-declining/#comment-6837</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Brendan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Sep 2008 16:33:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Lordy, no idea. I can only remember back as far as last week nowadays. Remind me again, what were these?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lordy, no idea. I can only remember back as far as last week nowadays. Remind me again, what were these?</p>
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		<title>By: Gerry</title>
		<link>http://brendancooper.com/2008/08/23/over-the-past-six-pr-friendly-indexes-mostly-declining/#comment-6835</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gerry]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Sep 2008 04:47:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Great effort Brendan; did this in any way consider the &#039;softer&#039; measurement metrics we discussed a few months back? Gerry]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great effort Brendan; did this in any way consider the &#8216;softer&#8217; measurement metrics we discussed a few months back? Gerry</p>
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		<title>By: Kyle</title>
		<link>http://brendancooper.com/2008/08/23/over-the-past-six-pr-friendly-indexes-mostly-declining/#comment-6825</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kyle]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 15:36:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Oh no, my graph is doing the dip ;)

You are so right Brendan, no metric is totally reliable and I think that Technorati is increasingly off.  It is funny that when I look at your graph for my blog it does coincide with a ramp up on my end in RSS subscribers and (more importantly IMHO) of comments left by folks.  But it also runs with a dip in actual blogging for myself, which is interesting looking at all the other data.

No matter what I love reading this stuff and the conversations it sparks!
/kff]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh no, my graph is doing the dip <img src='http://s1.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>You are so right Brendan, no metric is totally reliable and I think that Technorati is increasingly off.  It is funny that when I look at your graph for my blog it does coincide with a ramp up on my end in RSS subscribers and (more importantly IMHO) of comments left by folks.  But it also runs with a dip in actual blogging for myself, which is interesting looking at all the other data.</p>
<p>No matter what I love reading this stuff and the conversations it sparks!<br />
/kff</p>
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		<title>By: Brendan</title>
		<link>http://brendancooper.com/2008/08/23/over-the-past-six-pr-friendly-indexes-mostly-declining/#comment-6814</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Brendan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Aug 2008 12:35:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Barbara - thanks! In truth I&#039;ve managed to get the workflow to a state where I just need to pull data in from worksheets and build html queries from them so it doesn&#039;t take a huge amount of work. Interestingly enough a lot of the techniques I&#039;ve developed of my own, I find extremely useful in my work nowadays.

@Sally - you&#039;ve hit on the real problem with any metric - none of them are totally reliable. I&#039;d say the &#039;weird&#039; performance can occasionally be due to spam blogs linking up with other blogs, and occasionally Technorati quite simply goes a bit oopsy-la. Even Google have had difficulties recently, so much so in fact that I had to completely abandon Feedburner for some important work I was doing and am not going to return to it until I&#039;m confident it&#039;s passing the right information.

@ike - as I said, I&#039;ve only included blogs that have been constant through this period - ie haven&#039;t come in, dropped out or changed - simply so I&#039;ve got comparable data, especially for the totals. It&#039;s not personal - even I&#039;m not in the &#039;core blogger&#039; set.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Barbara &#8211; thanks! In truth I&#8217;ve managed to get the workflow to a state where I just need to pull data in from worksheets and build html queries from them so it doesn&#8217;t take a huge amount of work. Interestingly enough a lot of the techniques I&#8217;ve developed of my own, I find extremely useful in my work nowadays.</p>
<p>@Sally &#8211; you&#8217;ve hit on the real problem with any metric &#8211; none of them are totally reliable. I&#8217;d say the &#8216;weird&#8217; performance can occasionally be due to spam blogs linking up with other blogs, and occasionally Technorati quite simply goes a bit oopsy-la. Even Google have had difficulties recently, so much so in fact that I had to completely abandon Feedburner for some important work I was doing and am not going to return to it until I&#8217;m confident it&#8217;s passing the right information.</p>
<p>@ike &#8211; as I said, I&#8217;ve only included blogs that have been constant through this period &#8211; ie haven&#8217;t come in, dropped out or changed &#8211; simply so I&#8217;ve got comparable data, especially for the totals. It&#8217;s not personal &#8211; even I&#8217;m not in the &#8216;core blogger&#8217; set.</p>
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		<title>By: Ike</title>
		<link>http://brendancooper.com/2008/08/23/over-the-past-six-pr-friendly-indexes-mostly-declining/#comment-6813</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ike]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Aug 2008 05:28:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[...while my site just looks dead.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;while my site just looks dead.</p>
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